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Christian August Albertsen, born 1751 in Skartved, Sonder Bjert, Vejle, Died February 2, 1821
Posted by: James Dahl (IP Logged)
Date: December 08, 2008 05:42AM

I have had a large measure of success in finding my paternal ancestry, but I have encountered something of a brick wall in terms of available information before 1750 in Skartved or Vejle in general, at least in terms of sources of information I am aware of.

This is what I know of my paternal ancestry.

Someone named Albert (no other details known) had a son named:
- Christian August Albertsen, born c. 1751 in Skartved, Sonder Bjert, Vejle, Denmark. (Died February 2, 1821)

Christian August Albertsen married Marie Catrina Jensen Ansager (born c. 1757) and had:
- Jens Christiansen Ansager (or Onsager), born December 24, 1792 in Skartved, S. Bjert, Vejle, Denmark (Died January 13, 1853)
- Else Marie Christiansen, born 1791
- Anne Christine Dangaard, born April 5, 1801
- Johanne Christiansen Dall (or Dahl), born June 28, 1795 in Dalby, Vejle, Denmark
- Ane Margrethe Dangaard, born December 16, 1798 (Died March 5, 1880)

Jens Christiansen Ansager married Anne Pedersen (born February 28, 1795 in Roust, Grimstrup, Ribe, Denmark) and had many children:
- Christian Jensen Dahl, born June 12, 1823 in Skartved, S. Bjert, Vejle, Denmark (Died December 6, 1891)
- Marie Catherine Jensen Dahl, born May 18, 1831 in Skartred, Ringkoping, Denmark (Died March 20, 1895 buried in Hyrum, Cache, Utah, USA)
- (daughter) Jensen Dahl, born 1835 in Skartvid, Bjert, Vejle, Denmark
- Jep Jensen Dahl, born October 14, 1838 in Skartvid, Bjert, Vejle, Denmark
- Soren Jensen Dahl, born April 8, 1827 in Skartvid, Bjert, Vejle, Denmark
- Peder Jensen Dahl, born May 28, 1825 in Skartvid, Bjert, Vejle, Denmark
- Christen Jensen Dahl, born June 12, 1823 in Skartvid, Bjert, Vejle, Denmark
- Jep Jensen Dahl, born July 7, 1833 in Skartvid, Bjert, Vejle, Denmark
- Fredrick Jensen Dahl, born July 7, 1833 in Skartvid, Bjert, Vejle, Denmark
- Hans Jensen Dahl, born August 4, 1829 in Skartvid, Bjert, Vejle, Denmark
- Anne Margrethe Jensen Dahl, born August 14, 1820 in Skartvid, Bjert, Vejle, Denmark

Christian Jensen Dahl married Cathrine Margrethe Guldbe (born c. 1827) and had one son I know of:
- Jens Christian Dahl, born August 16, 1849 in Kolding, Denmark (Died December 8, 1941 buried in Sidney, Illinois, USA)

Jens Christian Dahl married Miria Catarine Stragaard in Denmark and then moved to Sidney, Champaign County, Illonois, USA around 1883. He had three children I know of:
- Katrina Margrete Dahl, born August 25, 1881 in Skartved, Denmark
- Martinus Jensen Dahl, born August 16, 1885 in Raymond, Illinois, USA (Died April 11, 1933 buried in Sidney, Illinois, USA)
- Jacobina C Dahl

Martinus Jensen Dahl married Ida M Evans and had one son:
- Harold Evans "Whitey" Dahl, born 29 June 1909 in Sidney, Champaign, Illinois, USA (Died 1951)

Harold Evans "Whitey" Dahl was a military pilot who fought in the Spanish Civil War for the Republicans, was one of the first Eagle Squadron pilots in Britain before the USA entered WWII, trained Canadian pilots in Ontario, Canada, then flew commercially throughout South America and in Switzerland, usually fleeing law enforcement. In Canada, Whitey married Eleanor Jamieson Bone and had 3 children:
- Jamieson Graham Dahl
- Stephanie Graham Dahl
- Christopher Graham Dahl

Christopher Graham Dahl married Marion-Lea Jamieson and had two children
- Anna-Lea Dahl
- Jamieson Graham Dahl (me)



Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 12/08/2008 09:35AM by James Dahl.

Re: Christian August Albertsen, born 1751 in Skartved, Sonder Bjert, Vejle, Died February 2, 1821
Posted by: James Dahl (IP Logged)
Date: December 08, 2008 08:52AM

From what I can tell, my family did not actually live in Skartved, but rather the parish of Dalby southeast of Kolding (Not the one on Fyn), where I assume my family name comes from. Records keep showing Skartved but I haven't found any evidence that my family ever moved out of Dalby, except perhaps the last generation before moving to America may have been in Kolding.

Genealogical records say Skartved, but census records show Dalby parish. I'm not sure what to make of it really. From what I can understand, Dalby parish was part of Skartved municipality, which was part of Sønder Bjert district, which in turn was part of Vejle county. So even though Dalby is literally next to Kolding it is part of Skartved, which is actually rather far away from Dalby.

There's a contact for Dalby Church on this page
[www.sogn.dk]
Maybe someone can help me out if they live nearby.

I'm curious as to how far back I can go.



Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 12/08/2008 09:42AM by James Dahl.

Re: Christian August Albertsen, born 1751 in Skartved, Sonder Bjert, Vejle, Died February 2, 1821
Posted by: Inger Toudal (IP Logged)
Date: December 08, 2008 01:54PM

Skartved is a place in Sønder Bjert parish, situated about halfway between Dalby and Sønder Bjert.

Dalby and Sønder Bjert are neighbouring parishes. It seems that Christian August Albertsen and his family moved from Skartved to Dalby. You find Sønder Bjert, Skartved and Dalby on Google Maps.

Dalby and Sønder Bjert parishes were both located in Nørre Tyrstrup district, Vejle county. Kolding was in Brusk district, Vejle county. Please refer to this map of counties in Denmark [www.dis-danmark.dk]. When you click on Vejle, you can see the districts and parishes in Vejle county.

Best regards,
Inger Toudal



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/08/2008 03:58PM by Inger Toudal.

Re: Christian August Albertsen, born 1751 in Skartved, Sonder Bjert, Vejle, Died February 2, 1821
Posted by: James Dahl (IP Logged)
Date: December 08, 2008 05:58PM

Thanks Inger,

You wouldn't happen to know anything about the Albert that I've come across as Christian August Albertsen's father would you?

Re: Christian August Albertsen, born 1751 in Skartved, Sonder Bjert, Vejle, Died February 2, 1821
Posted by: Inger Toudal (IP Logged)
Date: December 08, 2008 06:54PM

I tried to look Christian August's birth up in the parish registers on AO [www.arkivalieonline.dk], where you can view images of Danish parish registers and censuses. Instructions in English for using the site can be found here: [www.utilis.dk].

I didn't find Christian August born in Dalby or Sønder Bjert parishes 1751-1757, but then, I wasn't able to read all entries. He might, of course, have moved to Sønder Bjert from another parish. You don't happen to know where and when he was married? His death record (AO, Dalby, Nørre Tyrstrup, Vejle 1782-1851, opslag 225, no 2) doesn't give any information about parents or birth place.

The parish records in Dalby, Nørre Tyrstrup district, Vejle county, go back to 1726. In Sønder Bjert you can get as far back as 1699.

Regards,
Inger

Re: Christian August Albertsen, born 1751 in Skartved, Sonder Bjert, Vejle, Died February 2, 1821
Posted by: James Dahl (IP Logged)
Date: December 08, 2008 07:17PM

Thanks Inger,

I couldn't find much documentation about Christian August other than a few census records. There is a bit of ambiguity about his birth year, I've also seen c. 1757 as his birth year as well. Both of those dates are "about" dates, and he just as easily could have been born in 1749 or 1759.

I have trouble reading the Gothic characters, I couldn't even see what people's names were when I looked. I suppose it just takes practice.

Re: Christian August Albertsen, born 1751 in Skartved, Sonder Bjert, Vejle, Died February 2, 1821
Posted by: James Dahl (IP Logged)
Date: December 09, 2008 05:58AM

I think I might have found an entry.

I found something that might be Christian August Albertsen in the Stenderup Parish records for 1757 (Opslag 32 in 1728-1763 Kirkeboeger)

It seems to say the following, question marks showing letters I can't read:

"Christian Albrecht August ?????
Ma?n?? og Grethe August?? ?????
??? ?28 Mar?? og ???????????
21? Mart? ????? ??? Confimem?

Re: Christian August Albertsen, born 1751 in Skartved, Sonder Bjert, Vejle, Died February 2, 1821
Posted by: Inger Toudal (IP Logged)
Date: December 09, 2008 04:11PM

This birth in 1757 would be a perfect match for the age that's listed in Christian August Albertsen's death record 1821: 64 years.

For transcription, see [www.dis-danmark.dk].

Regards,
Inger

Re: Christian August Albertsen, born 1751 in Skartved, Sonder Bjert, Vejle, Died February 2, 1821
Posted by: James Dahl (IP Logged)
Date: December 09, 2008 05:10PM

Thanks Inger,

Is there any way to corroborate this church record? This isn't really enough to say Albrecht August is Christian August Albertsen's father.

Maybe his confirmation record, which would be around 1771 right?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/09/2008 06:27PM by James Dahl.



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